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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts About Florida Property Taxes</title>
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		<title>By: Dave at CyprusProperty</title>
		<link>http://www.roblimo.com/node/229#comment-86644</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave at CyprusProperty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment, "Real Estate Madness" is not solely restricted to the USA, it is definitely alive and kicking in the UK. And more than likely, its been seen in other parts of Europe and around the Med in the past couple of years.

regards Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment, &#8220;Real Estate Madness&#8221; is not solely restricted to the USA, it is definitely alive and kicking in the UK. And more than likely, its been seen in other parts of Europe and around the Med in the past couple of years.</p>
<p>regards Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Highest and Best Use is a real estate principal that is used by  both tax assessors and real estate appraisers.  Its based on the legal, physically possible, and most profitable use a property can generate.

If properties are assessed based on actual use, such as a hair salon on the beach, how do we appraise/assess the vacant lot next door?  What if the vacant lot was purchased for a million dollars for future development and its the exact same size and zoning as the hair salon. Should we then assess the vacant lot for a million dollars and the hair salon for $100,000?  What if you owned a vacant lot on the other side of the the hair salon.  How should that  be assessed?  The same as the developer's lot?

The fact is, property is assessed based on its value using the tried and true method of Highest and Best Use.  If we as society want to give the hair salon or Mom and Pop motel a break, then let's come up with an exemption, like maybe a "heritage" exemption if we want to preserve those property types.  But straying from standard real estate appraisal principles will only create more inequity and potential for abuse.  

Tim Wilmath, MAI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highest and Best Use is a real estate principal that is used by  both tax assessors and real estate appraisers.  Its based on the legal, physically possible, and most profitable use a property can generate.</p>
<p>If properties are assessed based on actual use, such as a hair salon on the beach, how do we appraise/assess the vacant lot next door?  What if the vacant lot was purchased for a million dollars for future development and its the exact same size and zoning as the hair salon. Should we then assess the vacant lot for a million dollars and the hair salon for $100,000?  What if you owned a vacant lot on the other side of the the hair salon.  How should that  be assessed?  The same as the developer&#8217;s lot?</p>
<p>The fact is, property is assessed based on its value using the tried and true method of Highest and Best Use.  If we as society want to give the hair salon or Mom and Pop motel a break, then let&#8217;s come up with an exemption, like maybe a &#8220;heritage&#8221; exemption if we want to preserve those property types.  But straying from standard real estate appraisal principles will only create more inequity and potential for abuse.  </p>
<p>Tim Wilmath, MAI</p>
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		<title>By: roblimo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Goldwater said at the time that he was against the civil rights act because we already had plenty of anti-discrimination laws on the books that weren't being enforced. His position was that the country should have been enforcing those laws instead of making new ones. Maybe he was right about this, and maybe he wasn't. Legislators at all levels often seem to look at a problem and see only legislative solutions to it rather than seek executive (operational) solutions. It's entirely possible that we would have an entirely different -- and possibly nicer -- racial landscape in the U.S. today if we had done things Goldwater's way. We'll never know.

Don't forget: Eisenhower found plenty of legal justification to use federal forces on behalf of school integration and to fight other racial injustices long before the civil rights acts was passed.

In general, Goldwater was not -- in my opinion, based on my contemporary recollections of what he said and did as a U.S. Senator -- nearly as much in favor of a small, non-interventionist government as he was in favor of a *simple* government with comparatively few, easily-understood laws.

In a strange way, "ultra-conservative" Barry Goldwater and my extremely liberal parents and my (even more extremely liberal) activist maternal grandmother shared a belief that seems to have fallen out of favor today. 

I call this belief "techno-utopianism." At its core was the idea that we would eventually solve the world's problems through technology, and that we'd *all* benefit through having more material goods (and more energy-efficient lifestyles) and better public facilities, not to mention peace and harmony throughout the world and fewer and less-stressful work hours for everyone, through automation of farming and factory production. 

Political disagreements among the techno-utopian believers were not about the desired end result, but about how best to achieve it. 

If the techno-utopians' vision had come to pass as I think they expected, whether through free market or government interventionist means, by now I'd only be working 30 hours a week, and on Friday afternoons, after work, my wife and I would  hop into our flying car and zoom over to Miami for supper.

Oh, well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Goldwater said at the time that he was against the civil rights act because we already had plenty of anti-discrimination laws on the books that weren&#8217;t being enforced. His position was that the country should have been enforcing those laws instead of making new ones. Maybe he was right about this, and maybe he wasn&#8217;t. Legislators at all levels often seem to look at a problem and see only legislative solutions to it rather than seek executive (operational) solutions. It&#8217;s entirely possible that we would have an entirely different &#8212; and possibly nicer &#8212; racial landscape in the U.S. today if we had done things Goldwater&#8217;s way. We&#8217;ll never know.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget: Eisenhower found plenty of legal justification to use federal forces on behalf of school integration and to fight other racial injustices long before the civil rights acts was passed.</p>
<p>In general, Goldwater was not &#8212; in my opinion, based on my contemporary recollections of what he said and did as a U.S. Senator &#8212; nearly as much in favor of a small, non-interventionist government as he was in favor of a *simple* government with comparatively few, easily-understood laws.</p>
<p>In a strange way, &#8220;ultra-conservative&#8221; Barry Goldwater and my extremely liberal parents and my (even more extremely liberal) activist maternal grandmother shared a belief that seems to have fallen out of favor today. </p>
<p>I call this belief &#8220;techno-utopianism.&#8221; At its core was the idea that we would eventually solve the world&#8217;s problems through technology, and that we&#8217;d *all* benefit through having more material goods (and more energy-efficient lifestyles) and better public facilities, not to mention peace and harmony throughout the world and fewer and less-stressful work hours for everyone, through automation of farming and factory production. </p>
<p>Political disagreements among the techno-utopian believers were not about the desired end result, but about how best to achieve it. </p>
<p>If the techno-utopians&#8217; vision had come to pass as I think they expected, whether through free market or government interventionist means, by now I&#8217;d only be working 30 hours a week, and on Friday afternoons, after work, my wife and I would  hop into our flying car and zoom over to Miami for supper.</p>
<p>Oh, well.</p>
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		<title>By: pudge</title>
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		<dc:creator>pudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 04:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goldwater was also against the Civil Rights Act, while most Republicans were for it.  Just because Goldwater was for or against something, doesn't mean he was right.  In this case, he was wrong, and even more to the point, you're wrong for impugning the motives of people just because they disagree with you.  It's unbecoming in an otherwise intelligent person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldwater was also against the Civil Rights Act, while most Republicans were for it.  Just because Goldwater was for or against something, doesn&#8217;t mean he was right.  In this case, he was wrong, and even more to the point, you&#8217;re wrong for impugning the motives of people just because they disagree with you.  It&#8217;s unbecoming in an otherwise intelligent person.</p>
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